ME: How's college life going?
DAUGHTER: Great. I need to figure out a major.
ME: Oh, I thought you wanted to be an English teacher.
DAUGHTER: I've changed my mind. What do you think of me going to Berkeley instead of UCLA?
ME: (kidding around) Great. It's a great school. 'Slong as you don't start hugging trees and stop shaving your pits while you're there.
DAUGHTER: Mohhhmmm!
ME: And what are you going to major in at Berkeley?
DAUGHTER: Peace and Conflict Studies.
ME: Oh? Hmm.
DAUGHTER: What? You don't think that's a good major?
ME: (fumbling) Well, I don't know what that is. Might be kind of hard to explain when people ask what my daughter is studying.
DAUGHTER: It's a degree in Humanities, Mom, but you major in Peace and Conflict studies. Didn't you say you want me to do something in life that uses my intelligence?
ME: (guilty) I guess I'm okay with whatever you choose as long as it's something that makes you happy.
DAUGHTER: (exasperated) Mom, stop holding out for me to be a lawyer, okay? I'm not going to be a lawyer so stop making me want to be one!!!
ME: (confused)Huh?
Did anyone hear me say I want her to be a lawyer?! I didn't know that "As long as it's something that makes you happy" translates into, "Get your head straight on, and find a college major that will land you a real job like being a lawyer. " Anyway, a week later, my daughter declared Anthropology as her major. She'll be digging for fossils in Africa while she lives in a tent. Could be a real job. I think. Besides since I'm only paying for her college and not going to college myself that's all I'm entitled to say on that topic
Then there's my conversation with my son. Background: talking is not his strongest suit. I mean, I'm doing well if I get more than one syllable from him. Seriously! Anyway, he's a sophomore in high school, and his sister's friend who's a senior asked him to be her date to Homecoming. He said he's going to think about it. This is me checking on his plans because Moms do that kind of thing, right?
ME: So are you going to Homecoming with R?
SON: I don't know.
ME: It will be rude not to let her know soon.
SON: I guess.
ME: Well, would you rather go with another girl?
SON: No.
ME: Is there a girl you like you have not told me about?
SON: No.
ME: You don't like any girl?
SON: Mom, I'm not gay, okay? Sheesh!
ME: Ah--b- wha--huh?
So apparently, I said "You're 16 and you're not interested in any girl. Are you by chance gay?" without saying it at all! How does that work?
I guess I suck at communicating with my kids. How does that happen to someone with a Bachelors degree in Communication? Could it be because despite my college degree I don't really remember attending a class called "Teen-ager-ish as a Second Language"? Sigh. I swear I was doing great at this parenting gig until the kids hit middle school, when all of a sudden they turned into aliens and things got confusing to me. Dang! I've never done anything harder than mothering teen-agers.
BUT for what it's worth, I have a feeling that although I don't talk the talk they're still listening somehow. I say that because they live like they do. They sometimes argue and disagree with my insistence that they behave a certain way. But when it comes down to it they are obedient, and do as they're told. They stay out of trouble. They do great in school. Authority figures love them. They act like they love me and their Dad. So they have to be listening to me, right? They may oftentimes act disinterested in my "wisdom" but they can't follow rules they've never heard before. So we might not have the prettiest, warm and fuzzy way of talking to one another, but they listen. In fact, maybe they are listening to me so well that they're even hearing the things I don't say.
It could be because my thoughts are louder than my words. They probably watch my facial expressions for clues on what's in my head because they actually care about what I think and whether I approve of what they do or not. They do that because even when they think they don't need my approval, deep down maybe they do. So they watch, they listen, they interpret and they call me on my thoughts. Thoughts that say, "I'm judging you. I don't get you. I'm doubting you. I am not as supportive of you as I say I am."
If I really want to be better at parenting I need to watch not only what I say, but what I think. I need to be a good, supportive, non-judgmental person inside out. I need to be a good Mom not only because that's a worthy desire, but because I am trying to be a truly good person inside. Maybe next time when I think a thought nothing will be lost in translation when I speak.
How about you? What is your secret to effective communication with your kids? Is your message clear or do you lose the message somewhere during the conversation?




32 comments:
How funny. Tell your kids to stop listening so hard so they won't keep hearing things you're not saying!
My kids are still really young, and I think we do okay at communication. David gets offended extremely easily so I really need to find some better way of getting through to him and providing constructive criticism or at least guidance without him thinking I'm so mad at him. (He asks why I'm so mad at him like three times a day. "David, remember you have to put your backpack in your room first thing when you get home. I've been telling you every day, and you have to start remembering it for yourself." "Gosh, mom! Why are you sooooooo mad at me?")
Not really looking forward to the teenage years in some ways.
MariVic :)
seriously.... i love your stories! you are so REAL... ya know!?!?
my oldest is only 10 so.... i guess i have a few more years of FUN LIFE before the whole TEENAGE ALIENs thing!
Good luck....♥
LOL oh I totally loved the convo you had with your son... so funny :)
Kids get a little over reactive for some reason.
There you are! Have missed your posts during this past week. My first two are so so soooo different, that just when I thought I had the grunting interpretation down my second son came along and likes to chat. Lots of smiling does the trick I guess! Funny post!
ROF!! BEEN there, done that!
My secret, I stop what I am doing.. and then restate what they are saying.... with a question. Make sense?
wow....i am so scared.
my son's almost 12 and he already seems alien-ish (LOL)...yeah they should have a secondary course to communication entitled "communication with teenagers"... there will always be 2 conversations going on with them, huh? the REAL one you're actually having and the other one going on in their weird little heads.
i tend to "translate" for people myself though. i have to admit it. i do that to my husband more than anyone.
like yesterday my husband made some comment like "ooh you look so cute in that skirt. you should wear skirts more often."
and of course i heard "you look like crap in pants"
see?
Bibi has a degree in anthropology and she works in a Lawyers office, Maybe there's hope yet Marivic :-)
I love to read your posts. You are so interesting. I don't take/make enough time to read them all or write as consistantly as you do.
I have found to be more effective as a mom if I do more listening then talking. This is a challenge for me, because I do like to talk. I agree with you not to underestimate children's ability to read between the lines. My kids are really good at that with me. I think you do a great job with Tara and AJ. We are both blessed to have such great kids!!
Gosh, Marivic, how funny! I'm glad I'm not the only one who has conversations with my kids with portions that make me think "Where'd that come from?"
Thing I love about my teenage daughter now is after a spirited conversation like yours, she shouts casually as she drifts to another room, "Love you!" And it more than makes up for how silly I feel.
Well, my secret is currently Baby signs! ;) ha ha ha...maybe that would be helpful? JK!
I LOVED my Anthopology classes I took at BYU and debated between majoring in Anthropology or Sociology. I ended up majoring in Sociology and LOVE it! I hope Tara enjoys her classes.
These stories are hilarious, btw, and am sure that I will have similar experiences with my kids when they are older!!!
I use the validation method. I just listen then repeat and ask a question based on their answers and such. I am only now being asked to speak from my sons now that they are older. Before, I had the same syllable problems.
I just know that we will never fully understand our childrens language until they get kids and understand that they don't know have all the answers either. Oh the cylce of parenting. I am worn out too.
You sound like a great mom.
I am still learning, you make me laugh! I guess I know now what I will be dealing with in the next few years, thanks for the heads up :)
My secret is to hold her chin and force her to make eye contact with me.
Of course...she's four.
You're job is done! They are projecting what they think you are thinking. Soon all it will take is a look. Perhaps a slight eyebrow twitch.
I've often thought about adding a small padded room with a table, 2 chairs and a spotlight for when I want to get information out of my kids, especially the 6th grader!
Oh, my conversations go about like yours! I'm always particularly stunned when they tell me not to freak out or ask why I'm so angry...when I'm totally not. I guess I need to rein in my passion.
And my between-the-lines speak!
very good life lessons. My children know exactly what I am thinking and saying without uttering a word, but so true we do need to be careful what our nonverbal is doing.
YOu have awesome children but that doesn't surprise me because you are a great mom!
If I knew the secret, I'd tell you! I really think you're onto something with that "Teenagerish as a second language" idea. You could make some big bucks on that one!
I don't think your communcation skills are lacking. I just think you're trying to communicate with TEENAGERS that is the problem. :-)
LOL! Oh goodness me thank you God that Elly is 4! :)
Good luck with that!
Should a course in Peace and Conflict studies be offered to each new parent of teens? Lots of times my kids are saying what THEY are thinking, not what I am. This wouldn't be funny if it wasn't true!!! My skill? lol! Well, don't get upset if they choose to talk to dad instead of me (cause we're a team right?), stand my ground without falling in the arguing trap (set masterfully by my 18 yo son), and be available. Oh, and live for the MOMENTS when they DO want to talk:) And most importantly! Don't take it personally!
I'm taking some notes right here! At 5 my daughter acts like a teenager, and at 2 and a half my son, well he acts 2 and a half. Right now it's just trying to get them to listen to anything we say.
And you can let your son know that mine wears his sister's nightgowns, every night now, and I don't think he's gay. As moms we just try to get information. :)
Raising kids is never dull! You are a great mom--you have great kids. Neither of my older daughters have stayed in colleg and when they were there--they had weekly major changes.
I think sometimes THEY have doubts about things and they project them onto you.
I have 1 daughter that will call me and say a few words and then we just sit there in silence--then a few more words and good-bye. The next 2 daughters complain that I don't listen to them often enough and would talk all day if I let them. My son is somewhere in between at the moment and little Beandoesn't care as long as she isn't left out. My thought is that I just want them to want to come to me when the DO want to talk!!
That was so funny.
I'm scared of the teen years, but it appears that I can hope they'll turn out just fine even if they make absolutely no sense for many years :)
Ha Ha! I love that your son says he's not gay. That's funny.
I have a hard time communicating with my 6 year old, and I can't imagine what it will be like when they are teenagers.
For the record, you seem to be doing a great job, and have great kids!
My younger brother just started college this year, and he is either going to be a professional bass player or a paleontologist (he never grew out of loving dinosaurs). He IS an amazing bass player, but there's not much money in the music biz, unless you get mondo famous. We all hope that his mission will knock some sense into him.
I love this. I think I feel another idea for a "pill" coming on...
And another thing: my parents never understood me, so why should I understand my kids??
Seriously, the best way I know how to communicate with my teens is to play with them. Charades seems to work really well. And DEFINITELY one-on-one, Mommy-n-Me time, every week, for at least a good solid hour seems to do the trick.
I also write them letters (and vice-versa) when we're frustrated or seem to have difficulty getting the other person to understand what we're really saying. This has been the best therapy for my adolescent daughters, AND for my husband who grew up with three brothers! Not only does he not speak teenager, he doesn't speak GIRL! And we have FOUR!!!
You make me so desperately look forward to the teenage years . . . Sigh. Although I have to admit that the thought that maybe they won't talk my ears off constantly isn't necessarily a bad thought. LOL. (Said because my son has followed me around all day talking and asking questions . . . blah blah blah).
That is too funny. I'm glad I have a long time until mine are teenagers! And it must be a boy thing to drag any info out of them.
Kids are always looking for double meanings in what parents say. I know becasue I used to do that too!
My oldest is only nine, so I still have them under my control. And hopefully, since I work with teenagers I'll make some kind of relatively smooth transition when the time comes. But somehow I doubt that's any kind of guarantee.
Just a few thoughts on communication in general
1. Listening is better than talking
2. Just about anything can be misconstrued by someone who tries hard enough.
3. It is possible to show someone that you care and are interested in their world, even if they and you both know that you don't understand everything they are talking about.
To put another spin on the lawyer part of your post. Daughter said "I'm not going to be a lawyer so stop making me want to be one".
The key there may be "make me want to be one". As in "I do not intend to be a lawyer, so please stop saying things that make me want to become a lawyer so I can turn around and sue you for saying such silly things".
Communication is big! Meaning important. I seriously suck at it. Or feel that way sometimes. I'm reading your other comments to get ideas on how to communicate better. It's so hard when your juggling everything and trying to be good at it all. You really sound like such a good mom. Can you train me?
Given that I don't have teenagers, I have no idea about that communication thing. Although my five year old and I had a unique conversation about bragging. Needless to say, at the end of it, he told me he was going to go to the child in class who had accused him of bragging and tell him that "I'm not bragging because bragging is me eating a candy and you not and me thinking I'm cooler than you and telling you that." I'm not quite sure he got it.
Good luck on all of that.
Look at you with all these comments! You go girl!
My words got lost in translation YEARS ago. I have two sons home...21 and 17. I don't think I speak the same language as them AT All!
My girls, we spoke the same language. Must be because we all came from the same planet!
I LOVED this post!
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